You should check out Roland Fischer's chart of Ecstatic States. It's a unique view of the various states of consciousness in relationship with adrenaline and non- adrenaline .
The question surrounding ecstatic states is if there is a difference in the noetic quality and experience. The answer seems to be no, so in whatever method or modality one chooses, the outcome is the same.
Mediation and focus seems to be the key!
The cultural methods of achiving these states are archaic is nature and can be found throughout the world. The question surrounding cultural appropriation is not relevant at a certain as it is pure biological synergy with the nervous system.
From a larger historical perspective, all cultures disappear into the void and mystical aspects of an ecstatic state.
It is a human birthright.
I am sorry you found some rule creating gatekeeping with the certain psychedelic cultures you have discovered, but I assure you it is not universal. Shoes, no shoes, high or just using breathwork, the rituals are designed to guide the Experiencer towards a very common human right.
Thank you for mentioning Roland Fischer’s chart of Ecstatic States, which offers an intriguing academic perspective on consciousness altered through physiological means. While it is compelling to view different methods of achieving ecstatic states as fundamentally equivalent, this approach tends to oversimplify the culturally embedded nature of these experiences. Each cultural practice that facilitates these states has been refined over centuries, deeply ingrained with spiritual and cultural significance.
While the biological underpinnings of ecstatic states might suggest a universal foundation, it is critical not to overlook how cultural contexts enrich and define these experiences. The notion that concerns about cultural appropriation are irrelevant due to the biological basis of these states overlooks the significant role that cultural significance and context play. Suggesting that all cultures eventually "disappear into the void" of ecstatic states risks implying a kind of cultural erasure, undermining the importance of these diverse practices in their own right.
It’s encouraging to hear your perspective that you feel not all psychedelic cultures impose restrictive practices, yet the presence of any gatekeeping mechanisms indicates a need for continued dialogue and reflection within these communities to ensure they remain accessible and respectful of their rich cultural legacies.
I agree that ecstatic states form a fascinating and potentially universal aspect of human experience, our approach must be informed by both an appreciation of their biological underpinnings and a deep respect for the diverse cultural practices that facilitate them. This dual approach ensures that our exploration is both scientifically grounded and culturally sensitive.
You should check out Roland Fischer's chart of Ecstatic States. It's a unique view of the various states of consciousness in relationship with adrenaline and non- adrenaline .
The question surrounding ecstatic states is if there is a difference in the noetic quality and experience. The answer seems to be no, so in whatever method or modality one chooses, the outcome is the same.
Mediation and focus seems to be the key!
The cultural methods of achiving these states are archaic is nature and can be found throughout the world. The question surrounding cultural appropriation is not relevant at a certain as it is pure biological synergy with the nervous system.
From a larger historical perspective, all cultures disappear into the void and mystical aspects of an ecstatic state.
It is a human birthright.
I am sorry you found some rule creating gatekeeping with the certain psychedelic cultures you have discovered, but I assure you it is not universal. Shoes, no shoes, high or just using breathwork, the rituals are designed to guide the Experiencer towards a very common human right.
Ecstatic States is a fascinating subject.
Thank you for mentioning Roland Fischer’s chart of Ecstatic States, which offers an intriguing academic perspective on consciousness altered through physiological means. While it is compelling to view different methods of achieving ecstatic states as fundamentally equivalent, this approach tends to oversimplify the culturally embedded nature of these experiences. Each cultural practice that facilitates these states has been refined over centuries, deeply ingrained with spiritual and cultural significance.
While the biological underpinnings of ecstatic states might suggest a universal foundation, it is critical not to overlook how cultural contexts enrich and define these experiences. The notion that concerns about cultural appropriation are irrelevant due to the biological basis of these states overlooks the significant role that cultural significance and context play. Suggesting that all cultures eventually "disappear into the void" of ecstatic states risks implying a kind of cultural erasure, undermining the importance of these diverse practices in their own right.
It’s encouraging to hear your perspective that you feel not all psychedelic cultures impose restrictive practices, yet the presence of any gatekeeping mechanisms indicates a need for continued dialogue and reflection within these communities to ensure they remain accessible and respectful of their rich cultural legacies.
I agree that ecstatic states form a fascinating and potentially universal aspect of human experience, our approach must be informed by both an appreciation of their biological underpinnings and a deep respect for the diverse cultural practices that facilitate them. This dual approach ensures that our exploration is both scientifically grounded and culturally sensitive.